A Pardoned Turkey, an
Unpardonable Man
Nov. 27, 2025
By Frank Bruni and Bret Stephens
Mr.
Bruni is a contributing Opinion writer. Mr. Stephens is an Opinion columnist.
Bret Stephens: Hi, Frank. There are a few turkeys we need to dig
into, politically speaking, before we get to the actual one. Let me start with
an appetizer: What do you think of Sean Duffy, the secretary of transportation,
urging people to dress up for air travel?
Frank Bruni: I didn’t see that question coming! But good on you —
it’s perfectly timed for the frenzied flying and crowded airports of the long
Thanksgiving weekend. I must say, I don’t hate Duffy’s appeal for fewer track
suits, less open-toe footwear. As long as we don’t veer into any elitist,
priggish dress code, asking passengers to show minimal sartorial respect (and
let’s keep hygiene in mind, too!) when jamming into a tight space with other
humans doesn’t seem so very evil. You?
Bret: I was astounded by a statistic that went with Duffy’s
plea: a 400 percent increase in “in-flight
outbursts” since 2019, including 13,800 “unruly passenger incidents” since
2021. I realize there was a lot of pent-up rage that went with the pandemic,
but that should have cooled off by now, don’t you think?
Frank: I think Americans are increasingly unfamiliar with —
and uninterested in — the ideal, importance and rites of civility. The pandemic
merely accelerated that.
Bret: “Manners are of more importance than laws. Upon them,
in a great measure, the laws depend. The law touches us but here and there, and
now and then. Manners are what vex or soothe, corrupt or purify, exalt or
debase, barbarize or refine us. … According to their quality, they aid morals,
they supply them, or they totally destroy them.”
Sorry, but I can’t pass
up the temptation to quote Edmund Burke. Ireland’s greatest son
would have understood the moment we’re in.
Frank: No apology necessary. I love it when you whisper sweet 18th-century philosophers in my ear. What you see in planes and airports is what you see in Congress and in the Trump administration. I’m not being glib. Too many of us are focused solely on getting what we want, and our preferred vent for frustration is demonizing and screeching at people who dare to get in our way. Is it such a leap from airborne outbursts to Secretary of Defense — excuse me, Secretary of War — Pete Hegseth trying to, I don’t know, court-martial Senator Mark Kelly, who’s a real American hero?
Bret: Hegseth — and Donald Trump, for that matter — are
reminders that, even if “clothes make the man,” as the saying goes,
short-fingered vulgarians will always be themselves. As for Senator Kelly,
insisting that unlawful orders must not be obeyed makes him a patriot. If Major
Hegseth wants to go after him, I’d say bring it on. It will go about as well
for the War Department as the indictments of James Comey and Letitia James did
for the Justice Department.
Frank: Kelly, Comey, James and too many others — they’re
victims of the malignant belief among Trump and his co-conspirators that
intimidation is the primary instrument of power and that the desire for vengeance is
something to be quenched, like thirst. I can’t tell you, Bret, how much the
sheer ugliness of it gnaws at me. I think part of what drives Robert F. Kennedy
Jr., our esteemed secretary of illness — pardon me, health — to trash the Centers
for Disease Control and Prevention and elevate junk medicine over the real
thing is that those behaviors flex his muscle and make him look fearsome in a
way that boring, responsible stewardship wouldn’t. What’s power, after all,
without the mischief and menace?
Bret: This has always been the Trumpian M.O.: the
desperate, and unwittingly revealing, need to show that they’re the bigger man.
Did Arnold Palmer ever feel such a compulsion? I doubt it.
The larger problem,
though, is that a politics of politicized justice, of pursuing petty vendettas,
winds up being self-defeating. The lesson of the efforts to prosecute Trump in
the last administration is that trying to jail your political enemies winds up
making them stronger. That’s exactly what this administration is going to wind
up doing: strengthening its opponents. Which, perversely, may not be the worst
thing. …
Frank: Not the worst thing at all. Let’s be clear about
something, though: This notion, so popular with Trump and his abettors, that
his politicized Department of Justice is simply a mirror of President Joe
Biden’s and that the prosecutions he’s demanding echo the prosecutions of him
is the epitome of a false equivalence and pure bunk.
Yeah, the indictment and conviction of Trump for falsifying business records,
in the case brought by Alvin Bragg in Manhattan, went overboard. But the other
cases? They were solid. And they were righteous.
Bret: The only solid case I saw was the classified
documents case.
Frank: Wait, wait — what about Georgia? There was audiotape. Trump is on the phone with Brad Raffensperger, the top
election official in Georgia, telling him to go find and count 11,780
nonexistent votes. How is that not wrong and rank?
Bret: Wrong and rank don’t equal criminal. Fanni Willis,
the hapless prosecutor, couldn’t make a case out of it, and now a judge
has dismissed it for good. Generally speaking,
the idea of trying to criminalize your political opponents is a bad one, except
in some of the most egregious cases — most of which seem to take place in New
Jersey.
Frank: Paging Robert Menendez!
Bret: You can trace Trump’s political resurrection, in
early 2023 when the political smart set thought Ron DeSantis was the likely
Republican nominee, almost to the moment the criminal indictments started to be
brought against him. Do Democrats still think that treating Trump like an
outlaw can hurt him or was ever going to — given that his whole political
persona is based on its outlaw appeal?
Frank: I agree that the prosecutions ended up helping him,
in part because Bragg’s was the first (and, in the end, only) one to come to
trial. But in the same way that wrong and rank may not equal criminal,
politically unwise does not equal unwarranted. Democrats weren’t going after
Trump on a whim. It wasn’t persecution.
Bret: What’s going to wind up damaging Trump and other
Republicans isn’t the illegality. It’s the incompetence. That’s where Democrats
need to keep a laser focus. Is the cost of living going down? Are college
graduates finding it easier to get a first job? Is the national debt under
control? Do you feel prouder to be an American? Is the surrender plan that
Trump has arranged for Ukraine a good idea that will bring lasting peace?
Frank: You have rhetorical questions, I have practical
answers! No, no, no, no and no.
Bret: There’s a leadership issue with Democrats right now.
I don’t envy Chuck Schumer, trying to hold together a Senate caucus that
includes the “fight club” of colleagues like Elizabeth Warren
and Bernie Sanders, versus the “don’t do stupid stuff club” of people like
Jeanne Shaheen and John Fetterman. What’s your advice to our friend from
Brooklyn?
Frank: Poor Chuck. He’s a very, very smart man with an
unrivaled work ethic who wants more than anyone — trust me — for Democrats
to reclaim the Senate majority. My advice to him and
to that “fight club” of senators unhappy with him is the same: The other side
within your party has some points and some wisdom. This isn’t a binary. Meet in the middle; the middle
is underrated. If you let this disagreement get too noisy and nasty, you all lose. And so, God help us, does
America.
Bret: The middle is two things, I think. First, it’s tonal.
The tone of nonstop, sky-is-falling, democracy-is-ending hysteria that typifies
a lot of liberal discourse isn’t helping. Second, it’s about policy. Democrats
need to reclaim the dead center of American politics. In some ways, that’s
going to require a considerable shift to the right. Like on tariffs, for
instance, or on education. If Democrats really want to fight, picking a fight
with entrenched teachers’ unions that are doing more to help themselves than to
educate public school kids — whose reading and math scores keep falling — would be a good place to start.
Frank: You know I’m with you on the dangers of Democrats
tacking too far left and on the verdant, fertile political pastureland of the
center. If the party has any doubts about that verdure and fertility, just look
at Trump’s sudden desire to get somewhere
closer to the center by now reportedly considering the extension of the
Affordable Care Act enhanced subsidies that his own legislation eliminated.
Bret: Here is where my inner conservative makes an
appearance: Extending the subsidies when we are $38 trillion in debt is a bad
idea! As policy. As politics, it’s surely good for Democrats.
Frank: I’m just noting Trump’s belated, baby-steps centrism.
Bret: Frank, I have to leave this conversation and get back
to being a useful member of my family. Last question: Read anything good
lately?
Frank: I loved a recent article in The New Yorker by Zach Helfand about the glow-up
and metastasis of special-access airport lounges. Could anything be more America circa
late 2025? (Well, apart from air rage and unruly passengers?) There’s the
economic tiering of those lounges, the indulgence, the insistence that even air
travel — which is supposed to be hellish, as a matter of character building — be
bubble-wrapped and lubricated with bubbly drinks. Many affluent Americans no
longer believe in civic institutions or community groups. But they believe in
the free mediocre sushi and abundant charging stations of the airport lounge.
Bret: Oh, Frank. You just need to switch to a better
airline, with better lounges and sushi. In the meantime, hope you have a great,
joyous, politics-free Thanksgiving.
Frank: Same to you, my friend. Turkey, here I come!
Bret: That’s Eric Adams’s line, too, I’ll bet.












